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five was the budget deficit. so no one's minimizing the importance of the deficit but there really is not a program that deals with the other four and they are using extreme measures and cutting up various entitlements and americans that want to deal with the deficit. >> i think what happened in 2010 and democrats in a way allowed this to happen is that the republicans succeeded in making the deficit a central issue and a stand in for people's economic worries across the board. >> right. >> i think now it's much clearer to people that these two things are related but they are quite separate and there are moments when balancing the budget or cutting spending on things like schools and public safety can actually make unemployment worse. i think something else important has happened, which is the health care law was very unpopular on election day back then. the health care law is gaining ground. and they were demobilized, the democrats last time. they are not demobilized this time. >> they were strutting around, the
five was the budget deficit. so no one's minimizing the importance of the deficit but there really is not a program that deals with the other four and they are using extreme measures and cutting up various entitlements and americans that want to deal with the deficit. >> i think what happened in 2010 and democrats in a way allowed this to happen is that the republicans succeeded in making the deficit a central issue and a stand in for people's economic worries across the board. >>...
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donors and contributors that wrote big checks in 2008 would sit in the sidelines in 2012 and a big money deficit would make a difference in a tight presidential race. back in early february, the president reverse a long held position on ss signaling they should pony up and to democrats it was safe to ask for outside money themselves. he teased the decision in an interview with nbc's mattlauer. >> if you ask me would i love to take some of the big money out of politics? i ul rtelgh now partly because of supreme court rulings and a bunch of decisions out there, it is very hard to be able to get your message out without having someresources. >> a few weeks later the reason hind the reversal became aad clear. you want to understand why the president flipped on super pacs, look at ts number. this is president's super pac in january. $58,815.83ai and questions about big donors were meant with defensiveness. even after the president's reversal, super pac fd-raising failed to pick up for the democrats significantlyn partic t official o r c, pitiessa raising just $2 million in february. 2.5 million in ma
donors and contributors that wrote big checks in 2008 would sit in the sidelines in 2012 and a big money deficit would make a difference in a tight presidential race. back in early february, the president reverse a long held position on ss signaling they should pony up and to democrats it was safe to ask for outside money themselves. he teased the decision in an interview with nbc's mattlauer. >> if you ask me would i love to take some of the big money out of politics? i ul rtelgh now...
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it used to be obama was suffering a big deficit next to romney with that. since several weeks ago, probably tied to the conntion, those numbers have turned and brand with respect to the economy has become more popular than the republican brand. >> mourdock who has been a hardliner, he's been trying to embrace the moderate positions claiming he's more open to compromise, claiming he will protect social security and medicare. but this is not the same mourdock whoefd ar r hema. are richard lugar and others paying their price for the extremism? >> i would add to what sam said, part of the aftermath of 47%-gate. it's tough to make the argument you're best on the eco wn you think you should only be working for half of the people on the economy, right? that's how the comments were perceived. to your estion, ed, i want to ad this is not just having a ickle-do effect to other tees the only shot we have at electing a new woman governor is actually -- >> it's ticket-wide, no question. >> who shouldn't be in a neck and neck race, but is, because of what's going on nati
it used to be obama was suffering a big deficit next to romney with that. since several weeks ago, probably tied to the conntion, those numbers have turned and brand with respect to the economy has become more popular than the republican brand. >> mourdock who has been a hardliner, he's been trying to embrace the moderate positions claiming he's more open to compromise, claiming he will protect social security and medicare. but this is not the same mourdock whoefd ar r hema. are richard...
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a $1 trillion deficit, to be precise. so ladies and gentlemen, these guys talk about the national debt. they talk about this, you know -- and what they did generated the slowest growth in private sector jobs since world war ii. it gave us this great recession. and what they haven't told you is, what they've been unwilling to do, to do anything about it. here's the deal, folks. we laid out a $4 trillion debt reduction plan over the next ten years. $4 trillion. we've already passed a trillion of it. ladies and gentlemen, these guys vote against everything. no, no, no, i really mean it. not only do they say they don't like our plan. okay, i get that. you don't like our plan. what's your plan? >> vice president biden there today in florida. still to come, why dthe debate n denver is essentially do or die for mitt romney. we'll talk about that. >>> first, though, the very unladylike game of politics and why that guy seems to be surviving. [ male announcer ] for the dreamers... and those well grounded. for what's around this co
a $1 trillion deficit, to be precise. so ladies and gentlemen, these guys talk about the national debt. they talk about this, you know -- and what they did generated the slowest growth in private sector jobs since world war ii. it gave us this great recession. and what they haven't told you is, what they've been unwilling to do, to do anything about it. here's the deal, folks. we laid out a $4 trillion debt reduction plan over the next ten years. $4 trillion. we've already passed a trillion of...
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if you're a republican and deficits with minorities and women, you need those white seniors to show up in large numbers for you. maybe they won't really understand that they fit into this category. there is a fair number of people who think this other people who are drawing on government subsidy in one way or another. but that vision part of this debate is going to be interesting because mitt romney has set himself up for some pretty difficult territory. are people on social security the kinds of voters that you are talking about, mr. romney, in this debate tonight, when you say government is paying too big a role in people's lives. that's a tricky one for him to walk out of. >> are the elderly moochers? he's going to have to answer that question. >> service members on disability? i mean same thing. >> coming on the heels of the romney campaign trying to use joe biden's biden-esque turn of phrase the middle class has been buried and you know, biden has walked that back, you know, is it an indictment of the president? look if you're going to fight for the ground on the middle class i do
if you're a republican and deficits with minorities and women, you need those white seniors to show up in large numbers for you. maybe they won't really understand that they fit into this category. there is a fair number of people who think this other people who are drawing on government subsidy in one way or another. but that vision part of this debate is going to be interesting because mitt romney has set himself up for some pretty difficult territory. are people on social security the kinds...
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tell you that that is just not the kind of inconsistency that he can afford at thi point given the deficits he faces. >> your thoughts, john. >> well, look, chris, i just think he's in annten tie he bal along. the bottom line on mitt romney is he's proud of his massachusetts health care law. there's part of him that wants to defend it, there's part of him that's always wanted to defend it, and he found himself running in a republican primary where he couldn't defend it forth rightly as ink wt . het woha wand to e twisted himentz up in a lot of knots. i think there's some theoretical way in which you could make a federalist argument but he hasn't made that argument consistently either. he should have stood up and said the individual mandate is a consvative policy. it was inventedt the heritage fodati andmbd conservatives as recently as a decade ago. co-have made the argument for pla health care and said that's what the conservative position was. he didn't have the guts to do that. he's ended up in this bizarre position where he's had to pirouette on this crazy tightrope wherhe says my reut t
tell you that that is just not the kind of inconsistency that he can afford at thi point given the deficits he faces. >> your thoughts, john. >> well, look, chris, i just think he's in annten tie he bal along. the bottom line on mitt romney is he's proud of his massachusetts health care law. there's part of him that wants to defend it, there's part of him that's always wanted to defend it, and he found himself running in a republican primary where he couldn't defend it forth rightly...
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registered another 12 months of deficits. the federal deficit for the year will wind up being about $1.5 trillion. that runs up america's borrowing or the national debt to more than $16.5 trillion. >>> still ahead a trail bladeser in the president debate history. carol simpson on gender equality for debate monitoring. you're watching weekends with alex witt. complete multivitamin designed for women's health concerns as we age. it has more of 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day 50+. share everything by turning your smartphone into a mobile hotspot for up to 8 wifi-enabled devices at no extra charge. like the new droid razr m by motorola only $99.99. your soups are so awesomely delicious my husband and i can't stop eating 'em! what's...that... on your head? can curlers! tomato basil, potato with bacon... we've got a lot of empty cans. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >> let's talk about why does paul lieian's attitude toward debate prep suggest. how does it contrast with joe biden's? >> he's
registered another 12 months of deficits. the federal deficit for the year will wind up being about $1.5 trillion. that runs up america's borrowing or the national debt to more than $16.5 trillion. >>> still ahead a trail bladeser in the president debate history. carol simpson on gender equality for debate monitoring. you're watching weekends with alex witt. complete multivitamin designed for women's health concerns as we age. it has more of 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a...
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we went from deficit to surplus. and businesses did very well. >> you know what i hear and i hear it in the president's speeches, he's still working the interest groups rather than selling a national plan. he keeps talking about more teachers. he doesn't necessarily push education he pushes more teachers and he'll refurbish the school buildings. grant it the aft like it maybe your people like it but it isn't a national plan for economic development and tonight they said what's your difference and that's all he could come up with is something about the teachers. where's the national macroeconomic plan to get us out of these doldrums. >> i think he talks about education in a much different way as well. and not just talk about. he's done it. he talked about the "race to the top" tonight. as a former urban school superintendent that's done more to reform schools across the country than anything else the federal government has ever done but there needs to be more than that as well. he's talked about manufacturing and tax
we went from deficit to surplus. and businesses did very well. >> you know what i hear and i hear it in the president's speeches, he's still working the interest groups rather than selling a national plan. he keeps talking about more teachers. he doesn't necessarily push education he pushes more teachers and he'll refurbish the school buildings. grant it the aft like it maybe your people like it but it isn't a national plan for economic development and tonight they said what's your...
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we have this huge deficit. we have crumbling infrastructure in america, we have huge problems here, and we're a lot safer today on the afghanistan/pakistan border because of the drones. you know, it's not just that bin laden is gone. al qaeda's greatly, greatly weakened in that part of the world, so we're a lot stronger today than we were -- a lot safer from al qaeda than we were five years ago, ten years ago. so it's not that nothing has been accomplished, but having more troops stay there and try to win over the hearts and minds of the various tribes, it's tough in iraq, but it's even tougher in afghanistan. i think the president's done the rite thing, a clear deadline and we're getting out. >> to take you back home with the election coming up, what is your understanding of what the president would do in a second term to deal with the fiscal cliff and to help create jobs? >> i think you're going to see real leadership from the president from the get-go from the day after the election. i think that he believes
we have this huge deficit. we have crumbling infrastructure in america, we have huge problems here, and we're a lot safer today on the afghanistan/pakistan border because of the drones. you know, it's not just that bin laden is gone. al qaeda's greatly, greatly weakened in that part of the world, so we're a lot stronger today than we were -- a lot safer from al qaeda than we were five years ago, ten years ago. so it's not that nothing has been accomplished, but having more troops stay there and...
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right now in trying to get reelected, he faces a deficit among women voters of about 12 points. interestingly though, the most politically damaging thing about that awkward introduction to the national political universe might not have been what mr. brown said about his daughters while they tried to make him stop, but what happened right before that. >> scott brown's victory is a shot heard around the world. here he is, the united states senator from massachusetts, scott brown. >> the man who introduced scott brown at his victory party was his dear friend and political ally mitt romney. these days if you went by massachusetts politics, if you only had massachusetts media fed into your home, you'd have no idea that the same guy was running for president. today was the second debate between scott brown and elizabeth warren. two things you'll remember in the first debate. the first the vee mans he attacked elizabeth warren on the basis of race in the first debate saying he could tell by looking at the law professor that she wasn't really native american. that was followed up by two
right now in trying to get reelected, he faces a deficit among women voters of about 12 points. interestingly though, the most politically damaging thing about that awkward introduction to the national political universe might not have been what mr. brown said about his daughters while they tried to make him stop, but what happened right before that. >> scott brown's victory is a shot heard around the world. here he is, the united states senator from massachusetts, scott brown. >>...
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let's assume they're true, let's say you can't do everything he wants to do without increasing the deficit and without increasing taxes on the middle class. what i think we will see is because i don't think there's a good answer to this conundrum he's in mathematically, he will kind of confuse the issue. he will talk in specifics that don't necessarily make sense. so as a political strategy, you want to sound specific and say, here, i'm talking about some detailed numbers, and people say that sounds like a pretty detailed plan, he's thought it through. martin, based on what i heard there, there's not an answer to the mathematical possibility of his plan working. the last thing i think he will do is just attack the study, attack the president's premise. >> of course. >> there's no fact checker on stage. you say that study has all kinds of problems. i think it's a pretty good study but i think that's how he will get out of it. >> dana, isn't there is problem that mr. romney's economic adviser has already suggested that if he cannot make the 20% tax cut payable by using deductions, well, then
let's assume they're true, let's say you can't do everything he wants to do without increasing the deficit and without increasing taxes on the middle class. what i think we will see is because i don't think there's a good answer to this conundrum he's in mathematically, he will kind of confuse the issue. he will talk in specifics that don't necessarily make sense. so as a political strategy, you want to sound specific and say, here, i'm talking about some detailed numbers, and people say that...
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and no taxes at all as part of a deficit reduction. one of the ways you know the obama campaign is going to try to salvage what was a stylistic disaster last night. they're going to try to have the debate and say wait a minute, how does that compute? they're going to try to have the bill clinton math argument. the president didn't draw it out. >> if you can't engage on that level, if you can't get in there and engage, then perhaps the problem people will tie that performance to his inable to get things done in washington. that makes me sick to my stomach. chuck todd, thank you. what's so funny? >> i'm sorry. >> he had a cat strask economy. did an enormous amount to rescue it from getting worse and worse and worse. >> i don't know. it's going to have to be fixed. >> all right. we'll be right back. brian shactman is next. "morning joe" returns in a moment. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. the
and no taxes at all as part of a deficit reduction. one of the ways you know the obama campaign is going to try to salvage what was a stylistic disaster last night. they're going to try to have the debate and say wait a minute, how does that compute? they're going to try to have the bill clinton math argument. the president didn't draw it out. >> if you can't engage on that level, if you can't get in there and engage, then perhaps the problem people will tie that performance to his inable...
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and most americans don't believe you have to touch medicare to take care of the deficit or the debt. >> listen, it's a numbers issue right? i'm a numbers guy. used to be 40 years ago that you had two people in america working to pay for every one retiree. now it's basically, you know, one worker paying for 10 to 20 different retirees because we've got this horrific demographic shift, 7500 people turning 60 every day. you're right. the numbers are unsustainable. what was interesting about your chart was this. i'll tell you what. the president is glad the election is only 39 days away. because yesterday kind of quietly, i don't want to get wonky, we had dismal economic data. we referenced it at the top. durable goods was terrible. boeing sold only one aircraft in august. gdp was revised down. 25% of people, i can't remember the source of the poll, basically said they'll slow down spending because of the fiscal cliff issue. things are slowing down because people, smart viewers of "morning joe" and cnbc know that we're going to get the biggest tax hike in history if congress doesn't do s
and most americans don't believe you have to touch medicare to take care of the deficit or the debt. >> listen, it's a numbers issue right? i'm a numbers guy. used to be 40 years ago that you had two people in america working to pay for every one retiree. now it's basically, you know, one worker paying for 10 to 20 different retirees because we've got this horrific demographic shift, 7500 people turning 60 every day. you're right. the numbers are unsustainable. what was interesting about...
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s debtore anus >> trillion dollar deficits. that debt is owned by somebody. someone holds that. that puts america in a position of economic risk. >> reporter: but even supporters are split on how romney can win this race. >> there is more fire in the be >> he needs tock wite s. abo t economy. >> reporter: more than half the country already started voting days before the first presidential debate. more numbers now. gallup is reporting the president's approval rating is sticking at 50%. and this could turn out to be his bestonth in a year. >> trapofos washington. thank you. >>> last night on the rachel madow show bill burton talked to racel about the impact or lack thereof super packs are having on the romney campaign. ory tel about mitt t romney is there is no story about mitt romney. the story they tell about barack obama is well he's always bad things. if you're trying to figure out well what is it that - what's the strategy here? how are we trying toin ts ra itorfi on their side. that's why they're so inefficient with their money. spending is a wreck. message is all over the p
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the deficit number? >> probably the deficit. i think if you are the president's campaign you're less worried about romney's numbers right now. on the one hand the 40% right direction is the highest it has been in 3 1/2 years and any incumbent heading in that is momentum. 53% say the country is headed in the wrong track. i think this for the president is not about mitt romney. those advantages, chuck, on china, foreign policy and the deficit aren't as strong as for usual republicans. and the final point i would make is i think the important thing for this election is that braump has a 52 positive, 42 negative image. mitt romney has a negative image. only two have had a net negative image at this point and one of them loss, george h.w. bush and romney needs to improve that dynamic. >> democratic pollster. thank you very much to both of you. we have to get back in the field. let's keep poling. just two days away from friday's jobs report. we will get a quick preview on wall street on the market run down. and then we are taking a tr
the deficit number? >> probably the deficit. i think if you are the president's campaign you're less worried about romney's numbers right now. on the one hand the 40% right direction is the highest it has been in 3 1/2 years and any incumbent heading in that is momentum. 53% say the country is headed in the wrong track. i think this for the president is not about mitt romney. those advantages, chuck, on china, foreign policy and the deficit aren't as strong as for usual republicans. and...
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see how they affect massachusetts, our country and debt and deficit and vote. i am a reliable vote for the bill. >> theme of the evening, independence good, partisanship bad. >> vote about 50% with my party and 50% with the democratic party and that's a lot different than what professor warren would do to be in lock step. >> when senator brown talks here in massachusetts about how very bipartisan he is and end pent he is he's not saying the same thing when he goes around the country raising money in this senate campaign. >> aliens watching the debate could be forgiven for voting in lock step is a criminal offense. warren accused brown of consistently voting with republican leadership to block jobs bills put forward by the president while brown said compromise was a foreign concept to the ultraliberal warren. with all political events this evening not without its gaffes. >> can you name some republicans in the senate today that you are able to work with on big, substantive issues that the country face this is. >> probably richard lugar would come to mind. >> he'
see how they affect massachusetts, our country and debt and deficit and vote. i am a reliable vote for the bill. >> theme of the evening, independence good, partisanship bad. >> vote about 50% with my party and 50% with the democratic party and that's a lot different than what professor warren would do to be in lock step. >> when senator brown talks here in massachusetts about how very bipartisan he is and end pent he is he's not saying the same thing when he goes around the...
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. >> he was going to use that money to reduce the budget deficit. i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president. >> well, what a miserable time he has. all he does is defend himself against paul ryan's budget and he put the guy on the ticket. >> chris, i remember when this happened. when you put ryan on the ticket, a lot of democrats said, okay, it's over, we've got it. and i was skeptical about that when they said it, and i think a lot of us who like to hear intellectual debates about policy said, great, fwring it on, let's have a big debate about the philosophy of government. down in florida they don't care about the fill loss pi. >> all politics a local. >> they want the program, they like the program, don't mess with the program. >> let's go to something really big because i like this guy so much. this is jim webb who is retiring as the senator from virginia. he's a democrat but a different kind of democrat. many people, including me, believe he's eviscerated romney with these words he spoke. remember what romney was sa
. >> he was going to use that money to reduce the budget deficit. i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president. >> well, what a miserable time he has. all he does is defend himself against paul ryan's budget and he put the guy on the ticket. >> chris, i remember when this happened. when you put ryan on the ticket, a lot of democrats said, okay, it's over, we've got it. and i was skeptical about that when they said it, and i think a lot of us who like...
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going to do anything on medicare and medicaid when that's one of the biggest drivers of our budget deficit. >> wow! all right. >> so that was a portion of what the president said when bob asked him about a meeting on medicare that he had with harry reid, and then the speaker of the house, nancy pelosi. he's saying we've got to cut medicare. we've got to be responsible. democrats are saying no, we can't do that. and now the president, after telling boehner he would do that, is going out on the campaign trail saying those bad republicans want to cut medicare. by the way, this isn't about this election. this is about what happens after this election. how does this president -- >> exactly. >> -- after saying to the republicans, i'm going to cut medicare, which, again, is a responsible thing to do, the only thing you can do if you want to save the program, how can this president then get re-elected and go back to boehner and go, you know what? i said i'd cut medicare, and then i demagogued it and attacked you guys on the campaign. >> well, in his own words, he said it's bad politics to not draw
going to do anything on medicare and medicaid when that's one of the biggest drivers of our budget deficit. >> wow! all right. >> so that was a portion of what the president said when bob asked him about a meeting on medicare that he had with harry reid, and then the speaker of the house, nancy pelosi. he's saying we've got to cut medicare. we've got to be responsible. democrats are saying no, we can't do that. and now the president, after telling boehner he would do that, is going...
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in terms of what how far he will go in curbing the deficit. and addressing the fiscal cliff. and then, he will have an opportunity, he will have basically a whole new administration. his cabinet will be gone. most of the people that he relies on in the white house will be moving on. and so, there's an opportunity for him to really set a new agenda. if he wins by a big margin, which the polls suggest is possible, he'll be less, i think willing to change his operating style. but one of the major criticisms is that he hasn't reached out enough to capital hill. so you may see a president sending both signals of strength, but also offering the olive branch. and if he wins the hispanic vote, 70-30, which is possible, you might see a republican party suddenly willing to address immigration reform because they'll want to get that issue off the table. otherwise, they'll never win another national election. >> i want to advance the point that eleanor just made there, president obama, he's been criticized by some even in his own party, for not being as engaged with members of congress a
in terms of what how far he will go in curbing the deficit. and addressing the fiscal cliff. and then, he will have an opportunity, he will have basically a whole new administration. his cabinet will be gone. most of the people that he relies on in the white house will be moving on. and so, there's an opportunity for him to really set a new agenda. if he wins by a big margin, which the polls suggest is possible, he'll be less, i think willing to change his operating style. but one of the major...
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no taxes to deal with the deficit. is that the right thing? >> keep in mind, he made it very clear that unlike this president, who i have to like as a person. i know him well. unlike president obama, he wants to work with congress. he knows he's not going to get anything done if he doesn't work with congress. >> but he drew a line there. is that a fuzzy line? >> i'm with it on the line. one thing that has to be made very clear is the wealthy will be paying just as much as they're paying now. >> but they shouldn't pay more. >> i thought one of the best lines is that basically we're tired of trickle down government. and he turned the tables on the president. we have the president who believes it will government is the last answer to everything. do you think that is going to be a political liability in the state of florida? >> well, keep in mind, he brought up pretty forcefully that the president cut medicare. he also said that look, we are going to keep medicare exactly as it is for those 55 years or older. but we have to do something to help th
no taxes to deal with the deficit. is that the right thing? >> keep in mind, he made it very clear that unlike this president, who i have to like as a person. i know him well. unlike president obama, he wants to work with congress. he knows he's not going to get anything done if he doesn't work with congress. >> but he drew a line there. is that a fuzzy line? >> i'm with it on the line. one thing that has to be made very clear is the wealthy will be paying just as much as...
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mitt romney doesn't have a deficit plan. he has a plan to cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires. one thing that will be interesting wednesday if he'll finally explain how his math adds up. he has a $5 trillion tax cut, on top of a $5 trillion to extend the bush cuts, and another $2 trillion in defense spending that our leaders say they don't need. $8 trillion. he says he's not going to add to the deficit. if he's not going to add to the deficit, the middle class better watch out because they'll pay the burden if he is elected because the hole is just too big. and it will be interesting on wednesday. if he says he's not going to burden the middle class, then he's going to blow a hole in the deficit. >> will we see president obama here on "meet the press" before election day? >> well, there's 37 days left, so we'll stay in contact about it. >> all right. we hope to see him here. mr. plouffe, thank you. >> thank you, david. >>> coming up, what are the stakes for both campaigns? the roundtable will get into it. founder of
mitt romney doesn't have a deficit plan. he has a plan to cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires. one thing that will be interesting wednesday if he'll finally explain how his math adds up. he has a $5 trillion tax cut, on top of a $5 trillion to extend the bush cuts, and another $2 trillion in defense spending that our leaders say they don't need. $8 trillion. he says he's not going to add to the deficit. if he's not going to add to the deficit, the middle class better watch out because...
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mitt romney, doesn't have a deficit reduction plan. he wants to spend $2 trillion more in defense, $5 trillion more in a tax cut won't tell us how you pay for, before you even start talking about deficit reduction. it's a joke to think mitt romney will actually take action to redaus the deficit. >> taxes, this week he did come out with this proposal of eliminating $17,000 in deductions. >> right. >> your response to that? >> well, you know, he left out a number of different details of that proposal but i would also say that limiting deductions to $17,000 for middle-class families still results in a tax increase. even in just the health premium deduction, for families last year, were about $15,000. there you go. what happens to the mortgage deduction, charitable deduction, child deduction. he's raising taxes on middle class families. >> if this comes up and mitt romney starts to do that math that paul ryan wouldn't do, i'm sure this will be a topic of discussion. >> how worried are you about the jobs report on friday? >> we face this ev
mitt romney, doesn't have a deficit reduction plan. he wants to spend $2 trillion more in defense, $5 trillion more in a tax cut won't tell us how you pay for, before you even start talking about deficit reduction. it's a joke to think mitt romney will actually take action to redaus the deficit. >> taxes, this week he did come out with this proposal of eliminating $17,000 in deductions. >> right. >> your response to that? >> well, you know, he left out a number of...
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the federal subsidy for pbs in 2012 doesn't make up a huge part of this deficit. for example, 2012, the federal subsidy for pbs was $444 million. if you compare that to romney's plan for the federal budget, you'll see how miniscule it is. pbs subsidy, $444 million. but if you look at the tax breaks to oil and gas companies that romney defended last night, those add up to $4 billion this year alone. and take a look at mitt romney's plan for the defense budget. he wants to increase spending by $2 trillion over the next ten years. so, i mean, big bird is a big diversion to what he's really talking about in terms of the deficit. >> well, i think those of us out here crave specifics from governor romney. and when he's talked about this in the past, he's often thrown big bird under the bus. i don't know what would happen if he threw big bird under the bass. maybe the bus would go off the road. but never the let's, he has this little set piece he does. do you want to know what i'll cut? i'll cut pbs and big bird, the national endowment of humanities and the amtrak subsid
the federal subsidy for pbs in 2012 doesn't make up a huge part of this deficit. for example, 2012, the federal subsidy for pbs was $444 million. if you compare that to romney's plan for the federal budget, you'll see how miniscule it is. pbs subsidy, $444 million. but if you look at the tax breaks to oil and gas companies that romney defended last night, those add up to $4 billion this year alone. and take a look at mitt romney's plan for the defense budget. he wants to increase spending by $2...
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mitt romney doesn't have a deficit plan. he's got a plan to cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires. one of the things that will be interesting wednesday, if he'll finally explain hows had math adds up. he's got a $5 trillion tax cut and nour $2 trillion in defense spending that our defense leaders say they don't need if he's not going to add to the deficit, the middle class better watch out because they're going to pay the burden if he's elected president, because the whole is just too big. so if he says he's not going to burden the middle class, then he's going to blow a hole in the deficit. >> will we see president obama on "meet the press" before election day? >> there's 37 days left. so we'll stay in contact about it. >>> coming up, we talk more about the first debate. what are the stakes for both campaigns. the round table will get into it founder of the faith and freedom coalition, ralph reed, former democratic pennsylvania governor, ed rendell. the bbc's catty kay and nbc's chuck todd. here's what happened... i w
mitt romney doesn't have a deficit plan. he's got a plan to cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires. one of the things that will be interesting wednesday, if he'll finally explain hows had math adds up. he's got a $5 trillion tax cut and nour $2 trillion in defense spending that our defense leaders say they don't need if he's not going to add to the deficit, the middle class better watch out because they're going to pay the burden if he's elected president, because the whole is just too...
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we have increased deficits. we have had unemployment over 8%. the middle class is hurting. and i think he did, thomas, give specifics. he gave his five-point plan how he is going to create jobs in this country. >> but senator, you don't think that we are better off than four years ago when it comes to 43 straight months of job growth, the fact that the auto bailout worked? the fact we have drawn out of the war in iraq and we are now slowly trying to map out the course to leave afghanistan? you don't think that the country is better off than we were four years ago as a whole, collectively? >> since you brought up the foreign situation, i think we are in a much worse position because the president withdrew from iraq and afghanistan without benchmarks that would be required to keep those countries stable when we leave. that's why we are seeing our people being shot by insiders in afghanistan. why things are breaking up in iraq. i don't think the world is safer because of what president obama has done. i think his foreign policy is very -- >> do you think we need to pull out of
we have increased deficits. we have had unemployment over 8%. the middle class is hurting. and i think he did, thomas, give specifics. he gave his five-point plan how he is going to create jobs in this country. >> but senator, you don't think that we are better off than four years ago when it comes to 43 straight months of job growth, the fact that the auto bailout worked? the fact we have drawn out of the war in iraq and we are now slowly trying to map out the course to leave...
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who knows, it might help make inroads with that 9% deficit romney is facing against the president in the latest ohio poll. then again, there may not be enough time to do enough shots with enough intoxicated fans before voting starts in ohio tomorrow. so if his running mate is no use, how about a boost from the other person mitt's proposed to, his wife, ann. surely she can provide the comfort and confidence that mr. romney needs to fire up his bid for the presidency. >> my biggest concern obviously would just be for the -- his mental well-being. >> wait? what? mrs. romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise. let's get right to our panel this afternoon. wit
who knows, it might help make inroads with that 9% deficit romney is facing against the president in the latest ohio poll. then again, there may not be enough time to do enough shots with enough intoxicated fans before voting starts in ohio tomorrow. so if his running mate is no use, how about a boost from the other person mitt's proposed to, his wife, ann. surely she can provide the comfort and confidence that mr. romney needs to fire up his bid for the presidency. >> my biggest concern...
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including paul ryan tight-lipped on the specifics of the romney plan to cut taxes but not blow up the deficit. >>> and no animals were harmed in the making of this video. skater dude meet deer. that clip later in the show. first to the news live at 5:30 a.m. at 30 rock in new york city. >>> we begin with stories from overseas where foreign policy is coming out as the central topic in the election with much of the recent focus on the attack on bengahzi, libya. romney advisers are split on how broadly they should hit the president over his handling of the attack and why it took so long to acknowledge it was an act of terrorism. some romney advisers to keep the focus on the economy, some are saying romney should have a major foreign policy speech days after the debate. over the weekend, the white house was on the defensive after the friday's announcement that the deadly assault on the u.s. consulate in bengahzi was deliberate and organized. peter king of new york called on susan rice to resign as u.s. ambassador to the united nations after she initially claimed the attack on the consulate was pa
including paul ryan tight-lipped on the specifics of the romney plan to cut taxes but not blow up the deficit. >>> and no animals were harmed in the making of this video. skater dude meet deer. that clip later in the show. first to the news live at 5:30 a.m. at 30 rock in new york city. >>> we begin with stories from overseas where foreign policy is coming out as the central topic in the election with much of the recent focus on the attack on bengahzi, libya. romney advisers...
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you'veot got stimulus in you onom an you can g bk t th t the deficits will get worse and not better. and this is the cycle of decline that europe is facing. >> mark halperin. >> prime minister, i take your point about the medium and longer-term issue. how important from a practical and pshological point of view is it to europe r ica ha alen ahe m to get our fiscal house in order? >> i think it's going to be important that europe and america cooperate to get the world economy moving forward. that's the most important thing. you see, i don'tunderstand, since the rescue of the world economy in 2009, there is rtually cooration beten ama,a, india, europe to get the world economy moving forward. you, america, need to export to the rest of the world. you can't stimulate your economy simply by domestic consumption or public spending or plic investment. you need to sell to the rest of the world. china nee to,ndt needs to sell to europe and america. that's the blasz of a global growth agreement. china concerns more. you probably do a bit more on infrastructure. trade starts to moveforward. peo
you'veot got stimulus in you onom an you can g bk t th t the deficits will get worse and not better. and this is the cycle of decline that europe is facing. >> mark halperin. >> prime minister, i take your point about the medium and longer-term issue. how important from a practical and pshological point of view is it to europe r ica ha alen ahe m to get our fiscal house in order? >> i think it's going to be important that europe and america cooperate to get the world economy...
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he's not going to have to overcome 8, 9 point deficits to try to get into it. he needs to go out there and communicate in a clear way where he wants to lead the country. what is the alternative vision that he has vis-a-vis the president and he's been unable to communicate that over the entirety of the election. tonight is one of his last chances to start doing it. >> let me give you another scenario and that is that the president has a good night tonight. he gets it up to 51, as you say, and the other guy is going down and very few opportunities left. that would be a bad night for mr. romney. thank you, howard fineman, and steve schmidt. >>> coming up, how will we know who wins tonight's debate? it's not like there is an official scorecard but experts will look at everything. we'll give you an idea of how to look at this thing realtime. >>> and also caught on tape, yesterday "the huffington post" reported paul ryan saying 30% of americans wanted a welfare state and jumped on joe biden as well saying that the middle class has been buried. the running mates are c
he's not going to have to overcome 8, 9 point deficits to try to get into it. he needs to go out there and communicate in a clear way where he wants to lead the country. what is the alternative vision that he has vis-a-vis the president and he's been unable to communicate that over the entirety of the election. tonight is one of his last chances to start doing it. >> let me give you another scenario and that is that the president has a good night tonight. he gets it up to 51, as you say,...
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. >> there will be no tax cut that adds to the deficit. i'll underline that, no tax cut that adds to the deficit. >> really? okay. what kind of mileage does it get? >> number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. >> huh? okay. do the brakes work? >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. >> let's not. let's let him respond. >> i get the last word. let me make this comment. >> nope. come on, mr. president, give us a peek under the hood. >> five week before the election he's saying that his big, bold idea is never mind. is the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans to replace secret because they're too good? is it because that somehow middle class a families are going to benefit too much? ♪ i guess you're just what i needed ♪ >>> we begin with the president criticized as being less than effective last night by hyperventilating pundits across the board, but now getting his own chance to put a spin on the first presidential debate
. >> there will be no tax cut that adds to the deficit. i'll underline that, no tax cut that adds to the deficit. >> really? okay. what kind of mileage does it get? >> number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. >> huh? okay. do the brakes work? >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. >> let's not. let's let him respond. >> i get the last word. let me make...
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it's going to be deficit neutral. you say you're going to close loopholes, deal with deductions, so let's talk about those deductions. you know, home mortgage deduction, charitable giving deduction, health care deduction. are you willing to tell the middle class -- >> tax deduction. >> are you willing to tell the middle class some of these are off the table? if you are, how do you pay for it? >> he's not going to. he has bucket, 17 grand. is that not good enough for you? >> that's the problem. if he starts getting specific like that, what the right wants to hear is not what 80% of the country wants to hear. that's the fundamental problem he has. >> the bar is pretty low for mr. romney. how does he get through the 90 minutes without any further problems? very quickly. >> i've been a big fan of the fact that mitt romney is the gift that keeps on giving. listen, if mitt romney doesn't produce a verbal or a physical gaffe tonight, then by and large, i think the republicans will probably say that he won. but, i think that
it's going to be deficit neutral. you say you're going to close loopholes, deal with deductions, so let's talk about those deductions. you know, home mortgage deduction, charitable giving deduction, health care deduction. are you willing to tell the middle class -- >> tax deduction. >> are you willing to tell the middle class some of these are off the table? if you are, how do you pay for it? >> he's not going to. he has bucket, 17 grand. is that not good enough for you?...
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we have seen a trade deficit explode. take auto parts. ten years ago, the trade deficit was $1 billion with china on auto parts. today it's $10 billion. that's why the president at the urging of a number of us, they have taken china to the world trade organization to show china is cheating and to ask for tariffs to protect american companies and to protect american workers. and we're seeing a pattern of the government finally on the side of workers, finally on the side of american manufacturing, standing up for american workers against china. we have a new steel mill. we're seeing jobs actually come to this country or stay in this country because we're standing up and enforcing trade rules. >> romney and the republicans keep talking about another tax cut for the job creators. don't we just see them increasing their profits by outsourcing this way? i mean, the model that romney wants to lay on the country, how could it be good for workers in ohio? >> well, it's not. we tried these tax cuts for the rich. hoping it trickles down to the middl
we have seen a trade deficit explode. take auto parts. ten years ago, the trade deficit was $1 billion with china on auto parts. today it's $10 billion. that's why the president at the urging of a number of us, they have taken china to the world trade organization to show china is cheating and to ask for tariffs to protect american companies and to protect american workers. and we're seeing a pattern of the government finally on the side of workers, finally on the side of american...
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of course everybody wants a tax cut, but if it's not going to cause bigger deficits, tell us how you're going to do it, and they won't do it. they won't say we're going to get rid of charitable deductions, won't get rid of homeowner, state and local. that's where all the money is. it's not little doodads here. joan, you take this one. he won't tell us. same question comes up wednesday night, can romney dodgeball it? can he say i'm not telling you how i'm going to do the major thing i promised to do, get the economy going through a tax cut, but i'm not going to tell you how i'm going to do it. can he get away with it with even the -- >> i hope not. i think this is a moment for jim lehrer to be very tough, respectful tough, and for president obama to come back at him and to say, look, i'm happy to see -- your running mate said he didn't have enough time on sunday. that's too bad. that's terrible, in fact. i'm willing to cede, governor romney -- >> could jim lehrer get away with simply saying, i have a little liberty here, a little leeway, i will give you all the time it takes. tell us now
of course everybody wants a tax cut, but if it's not going to cause bigger deficits, tell us how you're going to do it, and they won't do it. they won't say we're going to get rid of charitable deductions, won't get rid of homeowner, state and local. that's where all the money is. it's not little doodads here. joan, you take this one. he won't tell us. same question comes up wednesday night, can romney dodgeball it? can he say i'm not telling you how i'm going to do the major thing i promised...
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romney failing to make the sale on almost any issue, including the economy where he's at a six-point deficit to the president. six points on the economy? tt rney kha. trouble. and in a brand new ad, one reason is clear, as romney plays face thecamera, doing his best damage control over that 47% video. >> president obama and i both care about poor and middle class e difference is, my policies will make things better for them. >> and, cut. very good. that was marginally convincing. maybe a little more -- tell you what, here's an example of a politici speaking this nuauti an in bowlingreen wit come >> my opponent may think it's fair that someone who makes $20 million a year, like he does, pays a lower rate than a teacher, i disagree. i don't think that's fair. i don't think it helps grow our economy. mi t give up their deductions for owning a home or looking after their kids just to pay for another millionaire's tax cuts. we're not going to do that. >> dear me. diwe mention ohio voting starts in sidays? i'm delht to be joined now by former ohioer t strickland with us from columbus. good afterno
romney failing to make the sale on almost any issue, including the economy where he's at a six-point deficit to the president. six points on the economy? tt rney kha. trouble. and in a brand new ad, one reason is clear, as romney plays face thecamera, doing his best damage control over that 47% video. >> president obama and i both care about poor and middle class e difference is, my policies will make things better for them. >> and, cut. very good. that was marginally convincing....
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. >> he was going to use that money to reduce the budget deficit. i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president. >> well, what a miserable time he has. all he does is defend himself against paul ryan's budget and he put the guy on the ticket. >> chris, i remember when this happened. when he put ryan on the ticket, a lot of democrats said, okay, it's over, we've got it. and i was skeptical about that when they said it, and i think a lot of us who like to hear intellectual debates about policy said, great, bring it on, let's have a big debate about the philosophy of government. down in florida they don't care about the philosophy. >> all politics is local. >> they want the program, they like the program, don't mess with the program. >> thank you, howard. thank you very much for joining us. coming up, claire mccaskill versus todd aiken. it became a good bet for democrats. let's see how it is looking now. claire mccaskill, herself, joins us next. >>> with four judges in the supreme court in their 70s, the next president could d
. >> he was going to use that money to reduce the budget deficit. i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president. >> well, what a miserable time he has. all he does is defend himself against paul ryan's budget and he put the guy on the ticket. >> chris, i remember when this happened. when he put ryan on the ticket, a lot of democrats said, okay, it's over, we've got it. and i was skeptical about that when they said it, and i think a lot of us who like...
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the deficit is over 16%. that's the types of things i would start doing and on their brass tax facts that they can be using and we're making it vague and all of the things that we have in common as republicans with president obama but we do not. >> well, i mean -- look, debates are not just about landing punches. real people look at debates and say, what kind of a person are you? what kind of leader are you? what kind of person are you? if he doesn't communicate what kind of he person he is, no one is going to vote for him. >> meghan, she's like a straight shooter. >> i'm at my breaking point with this. and i like governor romney. >> we don't have to agree on everything but at least you're candid. meghan mccain and richard wolffe, thank you for your time tonight. as i've said before, this election is not about obama. it's about your mama. new polls show that the public thinks the big issue at stake on this election day, including medicare, social security, and our safety net. but, first, the right double stan
the deficit is over 16%. that's the types of things i would start doing and on their brass tax facts that they can be using and we're making it vague and all of the things that we have in common as republicans with president obama but we do not. >> well, i mean -- look, debates are not just about landing punches. real people look at debates and say, what kind of a person are you? what kind of leader are you? what kind of person are you? if he doesn't communicate what kind of he person he...
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he says the president promised that he would cut the deficit. it has ballooned. he said the president promised to keep unemployment under 8% if the congress passed the stimulus package. unemployment rate has been over 8% for 43 straight months. that's been the message that paul ryan has been carrying for unfortunately for the campaign mitt romney trails president obama here in new hampshire rather by seven points. in ohio by eight points. he's got a lot of work to do between now and then. next week paul ryan will hit some more battle ground states starting monday in iowa. in between he will also prepare for his debate on october 11th between vice-president joe biden in connecticut. mitt romney and president obama are down for the weekend getting ready to square off in denver for the first of three presidential debates on wednesday. that's the latest from this chunk of the campaign trail. let's send it back to you. >> okay. ron mott. bob seger music background music there. >>> in today's strategy talk, president obama and mitt romney head into wednesday night's de
he says the president promised that he would cut the deficit. it has ballooned. he said the president promised to keep unemployment under 8% if the congress passed the stimulus package. unemployment rate has been over 8% for 43 straight months. that's been the message that paul ryan has been carrying for unfortunately for the campaign mitt romney trails president obama here in new hampshire rather by seven points. in ohio by eight points. he's got a lot of work to do between now and then. next...
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you want to do this with the deficit. i want to do that. it's like the reason i want to do this is because i have a different set of values than republicans. >> what are those values? spell them out. >> using govnment as a coalgrvece protect the safety net and to come together and invest in innovation, education, infrastructure. we're in it together. versus the ryan budgetwhich us aa stand-in first puaninwhsa weonal gid of government and give you a voucher, find medicare on your own. here comes romney and he sort of fits the mold. he's a 1 percenter. he shows no empathy, even before the 47%. >> a pure market guy. >> they use bain, from the beginning, as cynthia noted, as a value. he's out there making money. i'm thinking of wider ames and goals. >> a n bloomberg goathat has president obama leading mitt ey bsix ints natiolly. onbig ason, half of the polls say they have an unfavorable view of mitt romney. bloomberg reports, this is a september high for a presidential challenger in the last three decades. bloomberg quotes a 40-year-old insuran
you want to do this with the deficit. i want to do that. it's like the reason i want to do this is because i have a different set of values than republicans. >> what are those values? spell them out. >> using govnment as a coalgrvece protect the safety net and to come together and invest in innovation, education, infrastructure. we're in it together. versus the ryan budgetwhich us aa stand-in first puaninwhsa weonal gid of government and give you a voucher, find medicare on your...
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it's the case he had been on two issues, on handling the deficit, on the economy more broadly and some extent on what making washington work and overcoming partisan paralysis, those are issues he was ahead of obama until recently, and was ahead of obama with female voters until recently. the reason you're seeing that ad right now, the biggest and most troubling change in the polling in the last two weeks has been the shift in the right track/wrong track numbers and concurrently the shift of obama being given the edge over romney on those issues where the only place romney had a lead. they are, you know -- obviously don't want to talk about the issues that are toxic with female voters but must win back some of the suburban female votes on economics, deficit, stuff like that. they see that as an imperative and that's why that ad is out there. >> i don't think you say to your baby to, welcome to america. the first of the ad is so bizarre. hi, honey, welcome to our family. >> welcome to a baby -- welcome to america, baby, you're teething and have $50,000 in debt. after the break while the
it's the case he had been on two issues, on handling the deficit, on the economy more broadly and some extent on what making washington work and overcoming partisan paralysis, those are issues he was ahead of obama until recently, and was ahead of obama with female voters until recently. the reason you're seeing that ad right now, the biggest and most troubling change in the polling in the last two weeks has been the shift in the right track/wrong track numbers and concurrently the shift of...